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Justus and Jort started Johan & Cornelis as they see that organisations are increasingly becoming the victim of cybersecurity attacks and are fighting a so-called inefficient never-ending game. They noticed that organization and CISO’s struggle with explaining and justifying cybersecurity budgets to senior management and or the board. This often causes organizations to allocate too little or too much budget for cybersecurity measures. Winning the cybersecurity inefficient never-ending game is impossible but it must be made as efficient and effective as possible.